Please stand by for real-time captions. >> Welcome everyone I would like to welcome you to thecenter webinar on service provider transformation from policy to opportunity. We are very excited about this webinar today. This is Rebecca Salon on the project director forcenter. I want to go over some housekeeping detail so that everyone can fully participate. And listening to the webinar if you do not have sound capabilities on your computer or prefer to listen by phone we have provided you with numbers that you can call him. There is a 415 number as well as 800 55 number and that is a toll-free number. You do need to put in the meeting code but you do not need a Tandy ID to be able to participate. Real-time captioning is provided during this webinar. The captions can be found in the media viewer panel which appears in the lower right corner of the webinar platform. 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If you experience any technical difficulties during the webinar please use the chat box to send a message to the host and that will go directly to Brittany Taylor or you may email her again and her email address again is btaylor@ndi-inc.org . >> For those of you who are unfamiliar with the LEAD Center we are the national Center on leadership for the employment and economic advancement of people with disabilities. LEAD Center is a collaborative of disability workforce and economic empowerment organization led by national disability Institute and funded by the office of disability employment policy at the US Department of Labor. Our mission is to advance sustainable individual and system-level change that results in improved competitive integrated employment and economic self-sufficiency outcomes for people across the spectrum of disability. >> Without further ado I would like to turn the webinar over to Amy Gonzalez . She is senior policy -- Amy Gonzalez initiate as senior Polybius -- policy advisor [Indiscernible - static] she will introduce the moderator and talk some about the webinar. Amy? But -- >> Amy you still may be muted. >> Okay. [Indiscernible - multiple speakers] take it away, Amy. >> Thank you very much Rebecca and good afternoon everyone and welcome to today's webinar and we will focus on provider transformation. This afternoon you will get the opportunity to hear from Tennessee who has been working under the employment [Indiscernible - low volume] program to focus on holistic systems change. We will get to hear different perspectives on today's webinar. Ranging from the state perspective, community rehabilitation provider perspective, the employer perspective, and we will also hear from an individual supported by St. John Community Services that is in competitive integrated employment. >> I am certain the audience will get the opportunity to learn and engage in a rich discussion upon conclusion of the webinar. We are very much looking forward to learning with you today. What I will do now is tendered over to the moderator Cori Di Biase. Cori Di Biase has been a national subject matter expert and has worked with ODEP [Indiscernible - static] integrated employment for people with disabilities. So take it away. >> Thank you very much, Amy and thank you so much to everyone at the office of disability employment policy both for helping facilitate this event and for facilitating the entire employment for state leadership entering program which has sponsored so much great innovation and change in the field. Not much else I can add to with Amy said to add and present to the seminar and this is in part on issues brief that social dynamics and its partners prepared as part of the employment per state [Indiscernible - low volume] on the issue of provider transformation and it looks specifically at Tennessee who will be desperate we will be talking to today as well as Iowa and it has the same focus is Amy mention in looking at starting at [Indiscernible - static] and working all the way through to the individual impacts of these types of changes. And the importance of these kinds of changes to both employers and employees and job seekers. Without further ado I will hand it over to the folks who will speak to us today from the Tennessee perspective and I will hand it over to Jeremy Norden-Paul who is the state director of employment and date services with the Tennessee Department of intellectual Doug Benevento disabilities. -- Intellectual and developmental disabilities. Take it away. >> Thank you so much. Can you hear me? I will take that as a yes. Yes. First thank you to the Lead Center social dynamics and [Indiscernible - static] and also a huge thank you to everybody who has been able to attend the webinar. No easy feat to take time out of your day to commit to a training or webinar so sincere thanks to you. Provider transformation of the topic we know gets a lot of attention. A lot of different calls and webinars and presentations are dedicated to this topic and for good reason, right? Really important topic. I think it's webinar is unique because we will start very zoomed out at the federal and state policy level. And then gradually our way into hear about how the employment first movement is impacting real people in their everyday lives. I would like to say we will look at both the forest and the trees. Also share perspectives from Tennessee and please note there is no one right way to go about employment [Indiscernible - static] and we know in reality we continue to learn lessons every single day about what we can do to make things better and making stronger. I just hope this is a helpful snapshot of how our state has approached employment first that the systems and policy level and also how that has impacted the lives of Tennesseans with disabilities across the state. I always like to start conversations and presentations about employment first with this, like, with this diagram even though some people who know me well might get sick of hearing about it but I think it is great. Author and Ted taught speaker [Indiscernible - static] which he calls the Golden Circle. Really very, very simple idea and that is when we are doing really hard work, trying to change enormous systems, we need to root ourselves firmly in the center of that circle with a question why. And then work our way up from there. If you are anything like me, as soon as I see a problem or challenge, I instantly think about how I will fix it and what it will look like once I'm done fixing it and how great it will be once I am done fixing it but the downside of course is it skips over the incredibly important question, of why we are wanting to do that in the first place, why do we want to fix it in the first place? Them he has the question that mostly rhetorical but since we have this neat chat function here feel free to type your answer if you have one in the chatbox and I talked, why is employment so important? Why do we care so much about employment? But -- >> I will keep an eye on the chat box as you type and if you have any answer -- but I want to say that there are a lot of different reasons that resonate with me and motivate me every single day to do this work. Number one, I know work place a tremendous role in our lives and it helps us build relationships, establish financial independence and have a sense of integrity and feel contribution to society, I also look at the employment rates across the country. I look at the employment rates for people without disabilities and something like 95% in the working age population across our country. And then we look at the same statistic for people with disabilities and it hover somewhere around 20%. When I look at the two numbers 95% and 25% and the enormous gap, 75% gap in employment rates, huge motivating factor for me to want to be involved in this work. I also look at employment as a key public health determinant in fancy talk but were simply put, people who are employed are healthier than the more healthy people you have in the community, the healthier the community is as a whole. I see some of you chatting here that says employment gives people purpose, value and you are absolutely right couldn't agree more. We also know employment is critical to addressing poverty and helping empower people to lift themselves out of property. Metro win-win situation for individuals in the business community. Early to take away here many different reasons why you and why we should care about employment and why it resonates strongly with you and I encourage all of us to think about those reasons and to keep it close to you. With you want to write it on a sticky note or put it on a poster on the wall or around work or a mirror at home and something that will constantly remind you why you care so much about this work and to invigorate you when you need it the most. From a legal standpoint there are many other reasons why employment first is such an important movement and I will not go into much more detail but any of these things because most of you are probably very familiar are ready with them and also is enough to Google you want to learn more information. Americans with disability act 1990, huge landmark legislation in essence prohibited his termination based on disability in any setting across the country. The second one up there is the Olmstead v. L.C. and as you may know a landmark Supreme Court decision from 1999 which essentially said people with disabilities have the right to receive publicly funded services in the most integrated community settings possible. And then of course most recently we have the HCBS final settings ruled the home and community based services final settings ruled which did a lot of different things and I'm sure you've been through lots of different weapons and presentations about that but a couple of really important things and in this content it talks about the person planning center process and talk about what will that person centered planning process plays and how we deliver services to people and make sure it is based on what people truly desire the lies and increase the protections of people have in their home and community-based settings relating to where a person receives their services to ensure they are provided in a true community environment. Last on this slide and actually one of my favorites, we can look back in history and the that employment in my opinion is interwoven into the very fabric of our country. Therefore it is fundamentally a matter of civil rights. This right here is a quote of course from a Declaration of Independence 7076. -- 1776 and probably familiar but the quote life liberty and happiness and I believe in a lot of people believe having access to a job gives opportunity to live a fulfilling life and having a job allows you opportunity to choose your path and to have liberty in doing so and of course having a job allows you to earn dignity, respect and money which helped create a sense of happiness so in a way I am here and a lot of us are here because I think of myself as a defender of civil rights with an alongside people with disabilities and when I read that word all in the preamble of the Declaration of Independence I really believe it needs all. -- It means all. I will not be the definitions but one is from ODEP and other from EFSLMP and I want to make sure they have the right with one from ODEP and what [Indiscernible - low volume] employment first establishes the simple and frankly it is a beautiful [Indiscernible - static] people with disability should have the same exact access to employment opportunities as people without disabilities and we know the work for system was by and large designed by people without disabilities so it is absolutely our collective responsibility to ensure that we are working within the system to push the boundaries of the system to make it accessible to everyone and as you may know there are about 46 dates if I'm correct that have currently any employment activity at all and about 32 of them that have a formal policy action such as Executive Order or legislative mandate. >> Now I will spend a couple of minutes talking about how we catalyze the employment first woman here in Tennessee and believe it or not Tennessee was among the very first state to declare ourselves in employment first date back in the early 2000 but there were several other things that needed to online before we could put that verbal declaration into any sort of substantive action so first we spent a significant amount of time ensuring there was commitment in different departments and stakeholder groups to actually want to change the service delivery system I mean that goes back to the question of why, we want to make sure people were tapping into the reasons why we wanted to make the change to the delivery system and surprisingly easy to get carried away with employment first action and strategy without spending enough time and for me people and actually cultivating that by in. Once we had confirmed that we had enough by in from a critical mass of key departments and stakeholder groups we John -- joined ODEP employment first state Volusia program and 2012 in the program was new at match [Indiscernible - static] Washington state was our mentors state and Tennessee was the protégé state and EFSLMP as the program is called has since transformed over the years and continues to provide technical assistance to a lot of different states including Tennessee now in 2017. >> On the bottom of the slide you will see a list not exhaustive but just list some of the key groups that we were talking about that we needed to get at the table and cultivate buy in from to get employment first off to them in the first place. After we set all the time cultivating the claimant getting the right people at the table and becoming a protégé state with ODEP in 2012 that set the stage for us for the next big action which was in June 2013, Gov. Heslin signed Executive Order 28th which took the important things. First declared officially Tennessee to be an employment first date and actually put executive back in behind it. Second called for the creation of employment first task force which meets quarterly to address the barriers of people with disabilities face getting into the workforce and to not only that but come up with creative solutions to overcome those barriers. Parody called for the task force to create and present an annual record that summarizes our progress over the past year and that is called the expect employment report and if I'm not mistaken that is included in the resources for today's webinar so feel free to check that out the we produce one every year and it is a really great snapshot of all the work all of our different stakeholders have accomplished over the last year.. Exec of other 28 had a really strong order for where we want to take our state and where we want to take the state of our work for system. Remember of course we are rooted firmly in why we want to go it in the first place but in 2013 we had to have something to tell us how to actually get there. A roadmap of sort so what we did is we wrote a strategic plan in 2013 and the important note is there is nothing revolutionary about having a strategic plan and a lot of people have them but we want to make sure it was a useful, living and breathing document and not something we would just type of to check a box and then convert to a PDF and put on a shelf somewhere. Actually it is something I literally carry around with me not only soft copy on my computer but hard copy in my bag so when I am at meetings at different conversations of people I'm constantly referencing the strategic plan and writing all over it making changes to it and I want to make sure it is actually a helpful robot on a journey -- helpful roadmap on a journey and we recently updated it in 2017 to reflect all current progress and challenges and so it is useful document is an highly recommend anyone on the employment first chair to have a very strong strategic plan and along the way we also formalize a lot of our partnerships with other state agencies through memorandums of understanding MOU which as you probably know help streamline services and clear confusion about who delivers what service and who pays for what and how individuals are served by one or more systems and things like that. You see kind of list here and I will not going to too much detail but feel free to contact me if you want but I will just make two notes about these MOU's. For the transitioning youth MOU I want to say it actually took us a couple of years to formalize that because we had to go through so many different deliberations and legal channels but it is hugely important for how students and young adults are served by our systems in Tennessee as they transfer from system to system especially. The other note I want to make that the MOU between VR and Department of mental health and substance abuse services is currently being developed as we speak with the support of the Employment 1st state leadership mentor program through ODEP . It did not click. There we go. This is just a snapshot of the different stakeholder groups that help make employment -- Employment 1st real in Tennessee and I really like this slide and doors what is underpinning all of this of course is the partnership with ODEP and involvement in the Employment 1st state leadership into program. And other things that [Indiscernible - static] we have our Employment 1st task force which is made up of different workgroups during the different work and we have a Tennessee work partnership which is housed at Vanderbilt Kennedy Center one of our states [Indiscernible - static] does a lot of things including providing access to research and grants and other amazing resources. Have employment Roundtable which is administered by our developmental disabilities Council. And that was the group that was responsible for drafting the youth MOU. The locals you see on this screen are really neat because they show all the different state departments that are at the table who literally sit around the table and participate in workgroups and be a part of these conversations. The note will make here is the most recent additions to partnership have been able Tennessee which is a program that you might be familiar with, a program of the Department of treasury and also the Department of Transportation has been a recent addition as we talk more about transportation been a barrier for folks with disabilities. And also very excited about the Department of economic and community development which represents sort of the business side of the equation we are talking about, creating employment opportunities for people with disabilities. Again no one right way of doing things and we certainly have our challenges that we face on a daily basis but this is just a snapshot of what things look like in Tennessee. >> Now the last thing I will share with you before I hand it over to Dwayne Webb to talk more about think that the provider level, at the department level in my department the IDD, we needed about I guess over the past six months to a year, we realized we needed a way of ensuring that all the work that we are doing and all of the criteria not amazing [Indiscernible - static] all that good stuff, was limited with time and resources and making sure it was done in the past, most efficient way possible and that we are being good stewards of stack -- taxpayer dollars. And very specific and intentional but the outcomes were hoping to see as a result of all those things. This is not a revolutionary framework, it is just a very high level summary framework that summarizes how we view our departments role in moving the employment -- Employment 1st wheel so to speak. A different part that you see on the left and the different drivers are inputs are largely interdependent so hard to be successful with one if we are not only -- if only addressing one or two and you really have to be addressing all these different things and I will not going to extreme detail about all of them. Very happy to talk to you in more detail if you'd like to contact me separately but just very briefly what we talk about rate structure we are thinking about ways that we can incentivize employment outcomes throughout reimbursement structure and the way that we are reimbursing providers and when talking about technical assistance, you think about whether a provider agencies have access to consulting, through our department, especially as they are making the transition from facility base to employment and community based services with community to practice we think a lot about webinars and calls, and different forums where stakeholders are coming together regularly to develop community and to moderate and things like that. Of course to medication, with the about how we are sharing in a very clear way, updates on progress and success Tories and also how we are gathering and incorporating stakeholder input across the board. With capacity building we think about provider agencies and other folks who have access to different training then things like [Indiscernible - static] and things like that. Of course with inner agency coordination were thinking about how we are participating in different stakeholder groups like the ones I mentioned before and also formalize and partnerships and memorandums of understanding to streamline services. We also think about leadership development. That is a tricky one but we think about ways that we are or are not cultivating leadership . Not only within our own department but also in the provider agencies across the state and we know one of the most challenging things that we can experience is when there is a setting cap and leadership, some of the -- somebody retires or was agency we want to think potentially about what we are doing to cultivate leadership both as a department and state agency and also in provider agency and community. And last on here you see employer engagement which of course represents the business side of the equation of employment which is thinking about how we are engaging and authentic ways with the business community and one of the most recent additions we made to that strategy was our partnership with the employment community development Department of Tennessee. Of course you see here that -- was catalyzing the whole system is of course the Employment 1st status and Executive Order 28 maintaining very high expectations across the board and when I talked about being intentional about those outcomes we need to be very specific about the fact that we are looking to increase the employment rate in our state, for people with disabilities. We are looking to increase average wage an average number of hours worked which also assumes we have to have an effective way of capturing that data. Without further ado I am going to now and it over to Dwayne Webb whom I have the pleasure working with on a pretty regular basis and he will share more about his perspective as a provider level -- at the provider level. >> Good afternoon and welcome to today's presentation my name is Dwayne Webb director for date employment services St. John's committee services and [Indiscernible - static] a young man who I'm truly proud of for his employment accomplishment representatives from [Indiscernible - static] dining services a global business deeply rooted in diversification as it ranks in the top 10 of 2016 diversity Inc. survey. For anyone who might not be familiar with diversity Inc. it is a leading assessments are great tool realized that with you place to gauge [Indiscernible - static] corporate America and global scales of that is truly an outstanding accomplishment for this organization. Last two fellow colleagues and leaders in the field [Indiscernible] continue to pay for the way for Employment 1st in Tennessee and national scale and Amy and Jeremy think you are much for all that you do. To begin I would like to take a moment to provide very brief overview of all -- our organization from corporate level and provide detail in regards to the steps we took and or provided confirmation process. Since the historic 2018 68 [Indiscernible - static] has assisted people to fully participate in and become contributors to their chosen communities. Our mission reflects commitment to advancing self-direction and full citizenship and equal rights for people with disabilities. We currently provide a wide array of services for over 600 individuals in the form of employment and community put its patient and community living in educational services in our Washington DC, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Delaware and Maryland locations. Our strong support base of 800 16 full and part-time employees allowed St. John's to carry out our mission of advancing community support and opportunities for people living with disabilities. But how do we get started with a transformation? The provider transformation process for our St. John's Tennessee Martin location developed out of sheer necessity. On July 1 On July 1, 2012 St. John's community services assume operations from a financially [Indiscernible] agency that up in a business for the past 21 years. At the time the agency provided facility base service model in the form of a shelf workshop facility and [Indiscernible] you can imagine the apprehension felt water company regarding someone [Indiscernible] long-standing organization should always been known to provide community care and services to the individuals and families we serve. [Indiscernible] even more when it was discovered that everything we ever known regarding service delivery models was about to change. St. John's do not believe in operating and [Indiscernible] services. Obviously being that we were at opposite ends of the spectrum regarding how services part [Indiscernible - static] on how to make this transformation a reality. We folks in our organizational transformation diligently assessing 60 elements of the step by step basis that we felt would be crucial in assuring we were ready for two systems transformation and up [Indiscernible] these include establishing identity, setting our vision, creating a plan, bring in our stakeholders along. Implementing the plan, correct in the data and sharing our stories. >> The first of the steps requires you to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror. And determine what troops you believe in what you will build your organizational platform on. What is going to be your identity? It may require you to dismantle every aspect of your organization right down to even your name as you prepare to move into fully integrated employment and community-based service models. For example our former putting them started with community but the services we provide in a sheltered workshop [Indiscernible] sure did not reflect that aspect. Both of these locations are isolated and offer little to no community inclusion and involvement. St. John's truly believe in operating 100% of the community and providing real-world settings for people with -- to learn and grow and many years ago they decided as an agency to separate people from their communities with not help them prepare for full and meaningful adult life. They [Indiscernible] back into the areas that need to be strengthened within the new service model some about of the community to provide services. Think about that it is a very simple principle. We have all learned from our peers environment as we've grown. In addition most about all of us were bad [Indiscernible] real-world setting rather than a similar when like a classroom and these experiences have led us into the career path and life choices were made for ourselves. The most important concept from this is that people have a right to be in their community and our role as a provider agency simply to support them. The second step to me in the most important part of our conservation process was establishing our core values of the organization. Will be the driving force behind everything that you do in regards to your service delivery. To meet times organization or values with no more than the paper they're written on, just words. In order to be successful to organizational change must have buy in from the very top of the food chain trade down to newest employee walking in the door. If you truly do not believe in what you're doing and how can you expect to change anything? Everything we do at St. John's is based off our core values. We believe everyone should have a career [Indiscernible] meaningful contributions. Employment 1st. But include it respected and valued. This means being a part of things and having your opinion matter in being treated respectfully at all times. Having ongoing information experiences and expectations from which to make choices. This allows opportunities to develop skills and interest which lead to career development. Wide array of relationships and through work and being able involve [Indiscernible] best way to develop those relationships. And last to live in Spain committee of his or her choice which is drastically impacted through the financial security of gainful work. These core values are what our staff keep in mind when supporting individuals in employment and community participation community [Indiscernible - static] [Indiscernible] how will you develop your services to meet the benchmark establishing a mission and core value statement? What benefit to these measures bring to everyone involved? This is where the rubber starts to meet the road and you need to be able to sell be why aspect to all your stakeholders. We also have to determine if you can actually deliver on and financially sustain what you are proposing. St. John's determines our services will be formatted around the following measures. All activities will be conducted 100% of the community and no St. John's facility are operated that will separate people from disabilities from their community. Staff will come with the individual [Indiscernible] in the community conduct a training [Indiscernible] to be no better than 1-3. And our activities will be chosen by the individual and reflective of their interests and choice and that all activities be close to the individual home and does no more long commutes [Indiscernible] . What benefit does this newly credit plan of action bring to the individual? Does it meet the core values we set for ourselves? >> For us it allows for connections with the community and relationships for social outlets. It provided the opportunity to explore different types of community resources, build skills and develop strong resume for future work. Gave individuals chance to contribute to the community and build confidence and self of this make sense of self worth and share responsibilities with other community members and allowed for greater independence and interdependent relationships through the development of community access skills and cultural interest. As he started to move the individuals out to the communities and truly begin to provide them with the opportunities to grow and develop they were bombarded with real-life experience. Newfound information and expectations from which they were not able to make more choices as they attain to their career goals and aspirations. This in turn led us to take a deeper look into the discovery process which we utilized to develop skill sets that we ultimately translate into successful job placements. On the other side of that coin what benefit the newly created plan brings to the community. The community and met even people with [Indiscernible] first time expense for community members. It increase the available tools of individuals available for nonprofits are dependent on volunteerism. And businesses looking for skilled labor . It provided an opportunity for communities to see people with disabilities as contributors rather than often needing contributions. Last they provided chance for new generations to grow up with people with disabilities thereby increasing acceptance and understanding of diversity. >> Regardless of how good of a plant you have created, it will mean absolutely nothing if you cannot maintain workflow margin to carry out operations. This will require you to take a hard look at every aspect of your organization to financially support the transformation process. It will require you to analyze business trends [Indiscernible - static] and core competencies to maximize every resource at your disposal. One of the biggest and most impactful resources you have at your disposal is your staff. At the onset of transforming our services St. John's evaluated personnel it require. Be strategically reposition personnel in key management roles and modifying pre- [Indiscernible - static] to be the core competencies of the organization. They then mentor that powered and held accountable those personnel to meet financial demand necessary to carry out system changes. Be met by weekly to discuss relevant issues and report on each department current situation as it pertained to internal matters of control looks operate more effectively and efficiently in the new service environment. Other factors when it comes to maintaining your margin may pertain to how you break your services to maximize finding and how you look at a potential opportunity for untapped revenue profits as they line up your operational mindset and strength. The primary funding source that we utilized during our transformation and process came from the incentives on the ID rate system provided regarding service delivery. Employment community participation services offer largest financial benefit when compared to segregated environment like our shelf workshop and they habilitation Center. We also generated revenue through our run over agreement with Tennessee vocational rehabilitation services. We provided employment [Indiscernible] benchmarks. We access local accounting and grant funding streams. Regroup fundraising efforts. We look at selling off and utilizing the buildings that once held facility-based structure to residential services as potential new sources of revenue and we obtained outside grants to provide specific training opportunities which targeted staff development and organizational core competencies and job development. >> Now that you created this plan to change everything everybody has known over the past 41 years, how do you address the concerns the stakeholders will have because there will be pushback. What are the reasons for the resistance ? Simply put people tend to be creatures of habit and they like to have their security blankets in place because they have a fear of the unknown that generates concerns about one's own competency level. We had to analyze the concerns of the mind of the family and individual templates by getting to the real root of the issue by answering one simple question, how does this affect me? The question itself may have been simple but the answers were far more complex. How do we achieve this? You achieve this by having conversations that matter. You know you just cannot go wrong with opening honest medication and this was established they went by our leadership team and they brought [Indiscernible] in nature and disseminated to all of our stakeholders as well as the community to reassure everyone that services will move forward and have positive impact on those involved. >> Came to the table with anyone who wanted to talk about the changing of services. We did this in one-to-one conversations. Group discussions. Phone calls. It did not matter, we were here 24 seven and available and we get people opportunity to express their thoughts good or bad and in turn try to explain why we were rendering services in this manner by paint a picture of what true community integration would look like for the family member. We further offered opportunities for people to take tors of our services and engage in trial program expenses and show what would change in what would not change with new employment wraparound services of community participation. >> We sought feedback from community and stakeholders on a regular basis to measure the levels of satisfaction and effort to create in areas of concern before they manifest into bigger obstacles. By maintaining ongoing contact we further enhanced and establish true sense of trust letting staff and families and individuals know we as an organization were in this together. We also conducted ongoing training and professional development with our employees on it Pro learning skill to strengthen their skill set and Bill sense of competence as a part chain to our service model and organizational objectives. Were some of the lessons we took away regarding overcoming the resistance and ensuring the plan that we wanted to implement was in place and carried out to the standards we set? We learned the change was continuous and you had to be able to adapt to survive. By empowering our employees a creative opportunities to Mets interest in skills and abilities of the individuals we were able to build a sense of ownership which stood in the complete by in and we learned real quick Lane a solid foundation would be the groundwork for our success in transformation. Are raising the bar of expectation we brought about a work standards, were static most important thing is you most definitely have to have a backbone to remain firm in committed in your mission because you will be tested by your employees, by individuals and by the families and by the communities and that you always had to remember to remain possible that some positive. Organizational transformation is a marathon and not a sprint. We began with 100 and not a sprint. We began with 103 individuals on July 1, 2012 and NetSuite [Indiscernible - static] current resources and establishing community recreation, and nonprofit volunteer [Indiscernible] real-world skill train. 2013 we were asked to join employment first task force with other key leaders in the state which really gave us insight into how service delivery systems were evolving. In 2014 we began to pick up momentum as he started to build their resources to fill capacity and we wrote at our first by the program that was 100% employment community based best transitioning individuals back to their own communities for services and support and in 2015 we tried that yet this -- EFSLMP grant and later in August we close and transition services away from the rehabilitation services further making imprint in the community as 33 more individuals entered into employment and or keeper to speech of services. We completed our journey on July 1, 2016 when we shut the doors to our sheltered workshop facility and fully shifted our services to 100% integrated employment and community does patient support. You been able to build and maintain employment program the currently consists of 47 individuals working in the community. To each of these phases are started the individuals demeanor change as the new community based program involved in the individuals were forming connections at the community for relationships and social outlets. They were given opportunities to explore different type of community resources to build skills and develop strong resume for future work options and I finally had a chance to truly contribute to their community and build their confidence and a sense of self-worth and share responsibility with other community members. We've also been able to share stories through the work of the ID public information officer Matthew Perry at Matthew has filmed several videos throughout our conversion process and most powerful statement I think have been made for change comes directly from the individuals he has failed. Individuals will spend 20-30 years and facility-based programs that are now able to speak to their friendships they form in the community and opportunities they been given out to truly make informed choices regarding their lives and careers. One of the most recent videos spotlights our guest speaker and his employer and believe Jeremy has placed a link in the chatbox and continued resource page as well if you'd like to take a few minutes to watch my connection it is available for your viewing and I will turn the discussion back over to Corey and thank you for the opportunity. Thank you very much, fantastic summary and thank you for your insight in this topic both of you. Now we would like to turn this great opportunity -- I have had the pleasure and privilege of working with [Indiscernible - static] in my career and one of the companies we can look at to really understand what it means when we say that the inclusion of diversity in a company plan for hiring or on boarding for retaining employees are really developing employees, is not just a good deal idea but a good business idea. And what we had to -- of course the idea that when we talk about diversity, we are of course including notion of disability and that diversity and disability has to be part of our employee base. We had the opportunity today to speak with two managers with Sodexo, Ben Markie operations manager and Jesse Kowalewski the marketing manager and we will ask a couple of questions and gentlemen thank you very much welcome to the webinar. Thank you and I appreciate it. Thank you. Can you tell me how did you first meet with some -- Mike McCrory who will vote talked to them.? I will take that one. This is Jesse. Might actually came in and I was the one who got the chance to interview Mike McCrory and talk about all his experience that he had already gained and he told me he was working for Burger King for 20+ years. Whenever an employee comes in and all they say is I love to work, I can do the job, it is kind of like you ought to be able to trust in that person and you know you will get good as this from them. This is been, I have known might, I believe his first day of work in late August or early September, the first thing that really jumped out was that he has a great work ethic, great personality, really bonded very quickly with other employees. It actually helped the spirits of our other employees worked there for while and they really enjoyed working with Mike McCrory, great personality and great work ethic like was said. Excellent. Thank you. Long have you worked with St. John's, when did you first meet them? This is Ben Markie. I first work with St. John's probably going back to July of last year. That is only because I am new to the area and I understood there was a long relationship with doing prior to that and when I came in he came in to get to know me and the new management staff pick with that I got to know Duane and what they were about. I also have a background in that field, from my father, who does a similar kind of job to what doing does currently. In upstate New York where I am from. We actually had a work early -- working relationship with Sodexo for probably a little over 2225 years. It has been wonderful partnership that we have had a for numerous years, and continues to grow. We are excited about the opportunities that [Indiscernible] had as the University grows as Sodexo gross on the campus and as you grow our program as well. Great. Great. This is kind of a difficult question and we're talking about a 22-year-old relationship your that maybe a question for Ben Markie, what was your first impression when you started meeting Duane and other folks from St. John's , what kind of organization did it seem to you? It seemed like he had a very close-knit relationship with the clients. Also close-knit relationship with myself and he is very hands-on regarding issues and he is on the spot if I ever need anything there or if I ever have a new job that opens up I am like hey Duane to have an individual that might be able to fit this in his right on top of it and this would be a perfect job for this employee. And with that is great because sometimes you work with agencies on different things whether it is partnering or anything, sometimes you don't hear back from a so he is definitely someone who is very involved and you can tell he generally -- genuinely cares and will come up anytime we need anything whether it is a weekend or we a. So we have always had a great working relationship. Great . And how has this relationship with St. John's account working with Mike McCrory, how has this experience impacted your view of diversity as a topic and the folks in your office, other managers and yourself how has it kind of influence the way you think about that work diversity? As you know I mentioned kind of at the beginning of the call Sodexo itself the company in general is ranked in the top five of diversity in the last five years, the the company as a whole and our company in general is only striving just to make sure diversity you said in the sense of the word is just a growing and expanding as big as it can. Something that would be great like you mention if you take it down into just our business, just where we are at and you see Martin dining services and our diversity, our employees and everybody working together, I think we are really taking over what the word diversity means in general. Because we are taking residence, people who live in this community from all aspects and all backgrounds and we're coming together and actually providing -- I know from my standpoint from the marketing side -- our national surveys, at entry we conduct one every single semester, and every single year, from illness of our staff, it is maxed out at 99. And I can verify that especially for some of employees like Mike McCrory the experience -- these individuals are very special and these are the ones agree to every single morning. There the want to tell you good morning a matter if it is rain or shine in so I diversity level that we are getting and also incorporating with the students at the University, is unbelievable. Such a great thing to see too. That is great and thank you very much. We have -- happy with the notion that I think more and more companies, or more employers are understanding the benefits of hiring individuals with disabilities just as they look to every other aspect of diversity in their hiring but if you were speaking with a colleague in the field, someone who do not have a lot of expense with this other were talking about considering hiring individuals with disabilities but not having a lot of experience or background, what would your advice to them be? How would you tell them about what your experience has been? I would say develop a good relationship with the individual, like Dwayne, here at St. John's and understand what you're looking for as far as are looking for [Indiscernible - low volume] cooker someone to clean tables or whatever it may be. If they have any reservations, they are some of the most dedicated employees, always on time and never call out, there's an issue month ahead of time, this day they may need off, the biggest things that I look for is their ability to follow through on some of the promises , which is like a right we will have a job coach up there every day, NICE that at St. John's -- and I see that at St. John's. Have Mike McCrory is there and I see the job could come with him and if you will work with an agency, you will need the support from them. We definitely received that tenfold in any issues they may have, I can go to the job coach and say this is an area we need to look at and pretty much fixed that day and I do not tend to have the same issues repetitively. By issues I'm not saying that they are huge or anything, but to small things that come with employment . I would say the benefits far outweigh any of the negatives, if there are even any . I have not seen any in my time. Okay, great. Final question for now although I'm sure that will be bunches of questions as we move to the question-and-answer feature and you touched on this somewhat but I sort of want to give you one more chance to talk about this. There definitely a lot of employment service providers and employment service providing agencies in the audience today. What they know about providing the best possible customer service to a company like Sodexo and even [Indiscernible - static] what should they know before the first time that it might at they are preparing for the first time they even pick up the phone, to call someone like you what should they know, how should they prepare to be the best possible this might provide the best possible customer service? >> Gentlemen, you might be on mute. >> [Indiscernible - multiple speakers] spent now I hear you. Let me start over. Before you pick up the phone they should look into what type of service that company or Sodexo [Indiscernible] and for us it is for service in other areas of our business are in facility demands or housekeeping, then you are going to want to know the type of jobs that they have had in those institutions. Here we offer food-service and strictly food-service and other Sodexo may do facilities for the school which is basically cleaning, doing janitorial work in those kinds of things. Knowing the types of jobs that we have been fitting them to the individuals, definitely something that as a manager I look at and say Dwayne, do have an individual that could fit this kind of job or that kind of job? He is pretty good at finding them pretty quickly. This person has this background , for years, which is another thing to look at is how many years an individual has been working in a certain field. Definitely help them transition to our account. I know with my cure he worked in food for a number of years. -- Michael he worked in food for a number of years and gave him a jump over another play. I think we currently employ upwards of 10 individuals in different areas and areas of clean table and dish room to cooking, to working salad stations. Knowing diversity of the jobs we offer and been able to fit individuals to those is something that I would encourage people to look into before you go to the manager or whatever account it may be an you see individuals and in all you do this kind of work and I feel that may be a good fit for those kinds of jobs because they have done this in their past the new short out very well with our account. Sometimes to tack on at the end there -- it goes to show all you have to do is literally make the call. If you have a prospect or an account that you have in mind or if you're needing to become or start that relationship, just do not hesitate because just from our perspective and the student perspective and university perspective, our employees that we have, and times that they are off that day, people can tell, these are the types of employees like been mentioned, so dependable, there on time every single day. Not to mention just the attitude, they bring with them. It is over the top and that is something especially working with students, at a university, it is that think that the student sometimes need that pick me up and need the customer service so do not be afraid to contact the company that you're looking for because the service that you are providing and the individual we get to work with, kind of a life-changing event, that is kind of provided, such a wonderful relationship that you can get started so do not be afraid to contact that employer. All right, great and thank you both very much like I said I'm sure we will get some additional questions to the general Q&A section here but for now thank you again and I will hand it back over to Dwayne, and you can introduce us to Mike McCrory and the two of you can tell us about his work. Thank you. It is my honor and my pleasure to introduce you to a young man who I am very proud of in his work accomplishments and that is Mr. Mike McCrory. How are you doing today? Good. Get you a little closer to hear you good there. What is your current job title is at Sodexo I am a cook. You are cooking what does that entail, can you tell me some of the things you are known at in the college? [Indiscernible - low volume] You are pretty good at working that grill, right? What are some of your other responsibilities? I know a lot of times I see you with the routers and cyclic that would eat -- thermometers and what he doing with those things? Different things. >> Different aspects of what is going on there as well. Outstanding. Can you tell me about what you are doing before you started at Sodexo where did you spend the majority of your day Monday-Friday? Working. And you are also somewhere else aware was that makes At the workshop. What were some of the things you did at the workshop. [Indiscernible - low volume] Those are just limited contract you worked on there. You had the experience of being in a shelter facility [Indiscernible] now you have the opportunity to work six days a week at Sodexo. What do you prefer better? Do you prefer what you are seeing in your current career path? Better than what you used to be doing? I like it. What are the big factors to it? Money. I think all of us like the aspect of on this pay for on his work so that is outstanding. What interest you in becoming a cook, might makes [Indiscernible - low volume] but kind of got started doing a little cooking around housing kind of lead into some different explorations. Outstanding, outstanding. In your job process, with Sodexo, how do we here at St. John's assist you in getting your job. What do we do to help you do that? Proper training, community work. The deal but in essence who landed the job when it is all said and done? I did. Very proud of you for that. Can you tell me how your life has been different since he started working with Sodexo ? I like the students and the employees in the staff. Have you made any new friends ? A lot of them. Outstanding. If you had the opportunity to talk to someone that is listening today and they were kind of thinking about getting a job in the community for the very first time, what advice would you give them? Give it a try and take advantage of it. >> I appreciate that. Anything else you would like to share that we might not have as regards what you're doing? Are nailed it pretty much had? Melted pretty much on the head. Sounded a good thing. I think Mr. Mike McCrory is done with this questions so we will turn it back over to you. Okay and thank you very much I'm not surprised that there are additional questions from the Q&A as well. We will start to the Q&A section now. You can see on your interface that there is a Q&A bar and we do have quite a few questions are really coming in a we will try to get to them, as many as we possibly can. I will dive right in with the question for Germany and maybe Dwayne, you have insight on this as well. If you are working with providers who are in this transformation process, but they really feel like they need to hold on to some aspect of a sheltered workshop, okay we will try, we will be pushing for folks to be transitioning in the community but we really feel the need to hold on to that service, to some degree, as we're moving forward, what is your response to those providers and what advice would you give them? [Indiscernible - multiple speakers] >> Yes, I will give my two cents and curious what you think about that Dwayne, so I had that conversation with providers are all sorts of different folks in one of the things I learned is that we had two years [Indiscernible - low volume] because I think it is important for us [Indiscernible - static] what I always like to do is approach the conversation because first of all learning about the history of the workshop and what role is played in people's lives over the years so I say when the things they do it for writers especially as I like to understand what goal [Indiscernible] why it has been so important and what purpose it serves for the people that they support and whether it is locational -- vocational training or whether it is community with their friend or whether it is safety or convenience in terms of expectation and every workshop will have a different set of answers and first things first I like to understand what role that workshop is played over the years and continues to play which I think will influence sort of up your trepidation that a provider might have of letting go of those workshop services so once we narrowed down on the role that it is played, I would like to sit down and collaboratively think about if there might be other ways that we can achieve those things in the same purposes and a slightly different way for example if it has to do with convenience and transportation what sort of transportation innovations are coming up with and what sort of transportation partnerships are we coming up with an is it a matter of community and friendships, that is an impetus for us to think about ways that the person is forming an imaging friendships in their community whether at home at work and elsewhere and if it has to do a safety I think it is a legitimate conversation we can have about mitigating risks and having the tension between the dignity of risk but also being very safe at the same time so I guess my answer there would be it depends on the provider, depends on the role it is played a part time in the more that you can understand about why that workshop has been important to folks the easier it will be to bring potential solutions as they transition more towards community services and Dwayne, I would love to hear what you think about the question. I agree with you 100% germy. Our workshop was in operation for 31 years. When you start to break down those walls and start moving individuals out into the community integrated employment setting, you will have a lot of questions and concerns that will come from your staff. From the management level to the direct care level to the families to the individuals. They have grown accustomed to those services and they've grown accustomed to having if you will false sense of security inside a building structural like that, what we had to do was ultimately start breaking down those barriers by peeling away the layers just like you with an onion and get to the final aspect of it, how is this going to affect me as an individual as a staff person, as a family member and [Indiscernible - low volume] it becomes such a stable for so many years in a small rural area that when we start talking about transition, everybody is like you are closing workshop? Well we are not closing but transitioning our services to something better and that is how we tired this might try to portray that. We approached our closure of our workshop methodically. We had a lot of in-house contract work that we had for many, many years some upwards of 30 years that we have had at that location. Way that we moved away finally from [Indiscernible] simply draw a line in the sand and go to those vendors and say as of July 1 we are no longer providing the service to you and we are fully integrated in the community, the individuals are proven they can do the job task that you have asked them to do on a piecework rate and now time for you to step up the higher individuals directly into your company. We saw a lot of companies that we had done work with do that very thing and then we had some companies that we had always lent -- method deadlines for and when it came time for them to step up and bring those individuals in, as skilled labor, they opted a different route and we are okay with that because we want the best for the individual and we know for us and what our mission and values stand for that is 100% inclusion in the community that is customized that it employment make a individual has a meaningful day. All right. Thank you gentlemen very much. I will do another question probably great for both germy and plan to get the perspective on. -- Germy and Dwayne, to get perspective on. Can talk about [Indiscernible - static] how is that related to the ongoing employment first efforts and again germy if you could talk about that from a state perspective and Dwayne, if there any partnerships you can talk about on your organizational level and that would be great. Correction: Jeremy. Sure, I can talk on that briefly NCF Dwayne, has anything to add. First thing I would say is when I talked earlier about getting the right people at the table are getting the right people on the bus, that includes our workforce system and Department of Labor and workforce development of that is one of the things easily overlooked . We have so many different state agencies working in different directions whether my department, DI DDR talk about vocational rehabilitation, Department of Labor, you name it, we are all in some way shape or form involved in employment initiatives and one of the dangers there is that we totally overlook a potential partnership so I would say first things first make sure your Department of Labor is at the table having this conversation understanding what resources they have available and chances are some of the things are trying to address can be much more easily addressed if you have them at the table and obviously or easier said than done this is work in progress for us are Department of Labor is at the table but still an ongoing conversation about how we collaborate and what is we can do together one example of that is how we can access and utilize data about employment rates and industries and so I think that is a real right area for collaboration, thinking about which industries tend to be hiring folks with disabilities and thinking about is there enough diversity in which industries are hiring and I think there also is potentially a lot of data in there about employment rates and if there are particular counties are cities across state that have higher or lower success rates than others and want to have the rich data information you are actually able to strategize which counties you want to work more closely with her which cities want to examine understand why there been successful so I would say number one week sure they are at the table and then number to look at areas for potential collaboration especially around data sharing for individuals working at distances will hire employees. We are excited with some of the initiatives coming out and opening the doors for us to start working with individuals coming out of school systems at a much earlier age than we were once able to do so very excited about opportunities we have moving forward on the employment front on those regards. Great, thank you. This is a question I would like to direct, first of the folks at Sodexo and then germy and Dwayne, -- germy and Dwayne, you can chime in. The question comes down to how do if I'm a service provider how do I go out and gauge businesses and really analyst them in this notion of hiring them with disabilities especially employers as was being talked about employers previously have had a relationship with the shelter workshop and use some kind of peace will contract, how do you go out and engage employers with the notion of [Indiscernible - background noise] [Indiscernible] and let us start with Sodexo and really from your perspective how you as a business and what is the best way to reach out to you and start building a partnership with you folks? >> I feel growing in person is great and bringing information with you to say here is what my company is about, here is what we do. We have been doing this for however many years I have a lot of individuals that meet the criteria for some of the jobs we have here. [Indiscernible - background noise] Sit down and give them an interview and see what you think. And then you can also -- I like to say all management is responsible and open-minded, sometimes that is not the case and as Dwayne,, he said he was the manager of the company and he put somebody -- you just don't feel comfortable and they are not on board, would not push the issue with the company because you would not want to put that individual in that issue where they are not supported by management and I think that is probably the worst thing that could happen. To not have the support of their bosses in what they do, I feel that that opens up a lot of issues. You don't want -- you want to look for companies that are on board with the ideas and it may be hard to change their minds but if you could bring information on what the company is about and individuals that can meet the criteria for the jobs, and take time and sit down with that manager, I think it will definitely go a long ways and like I said it would be the same [Indiscernible] like a good fit this manager is going to take care of the individual that comes here and that is just as important and from my perspective as a manager I make sure these guys are six vessel and I would not want to hire somebody who will start and fail. But I always look for in that area of management bringing relevant information that backs up your argument for hiring those individuals. What they [Indiscernible] anything we do it obviously we believe as Employment 1st is the first preferred outcome for the individual because it offers the most benefits for the individual but we also do our due diligence in regards to really carving out [Indiscernible] personal profiles of each individual that works with us in the organization to ensure the top placements that we would -- job placements that we move forward with will be fit for the individual and the business and we do want a win-win situation for the business because the business is gaining a skilled label for personnel and gaming piece in mind [Indiscernible] at the same token we want to make sure the individuals replaced or placed in positions and they want to have a career interest in, and also can open up the doors for further growth and development and it could be within the company or an entity within the feel [Indiscernible] for competitive employment roll it comes back to your role as an employment provider to make sure you're doing everything you can possibly can to place the individual and those [Indiscernible] and not doing so in a manner that did somebody in the job because that is what you have available at the current time. I would just say ditto to everything those gentlemen said and just some of my perspective into key points in the first one is in my experience and I used to be a job developer site before went into this percent is that businesses really want to hire put in place so it is how you make the business case and approaching the business from that perspective and not doing this because it is about charity or it is not about feeling good necessarily but when we are approaching businesses it is about making that prospective business case. Number two I would say the less people know the more they make up and that is something you probably heard before and so if people don't know what it is like to hire people disabilities are not actively engaging people and informing and educating and cultivating by and then people will have their own ideas and perceptions and possibly misperceptions about what it means to hire inclusively in high with people desperate people disabilities I think it is incumbent upon them to take that challenge seriously and people are not having to make anything up for having misperceptions but rather they have proactively received information from us. Just agree with everything that Dwayne, and Sodexo set. Great and thank you very much. Next question I want to direct to the folks at ODEP and Amy Gonzalez and her colleagues. The question is we need more technical information surrounding what to consider when transforming services and do you have any suggested resources? I was the first we will attach a number rate resources to this [Indiscernible] there will be further information there because there are great resources but Amy could you tell us about some our resources around this? Yes, I can. In April ODEP plans to release a provider transformation manual that is going to contain a wealth of resources , the manual is divided up into modules and addresses transformation from a holistic perspective. Our plan is to share the resource broadly so that it can be used nationally. So more details will be forthcoming but please keep a lookout for that resource. Great, thank you very much. Here is a question about staff training and of course there are a lot of new skills involved when a provider makes his move from a more seltzer services into -- shelter services into employment driven services and starting with Dwayne, can you talk about some specific strategies you implemented to assist and develop your staff, the skill set among your staff and managers for this? Sure. One of the things that jumps off the page at me is we had an opportunity to Tennessee to hear a grant that enabled us to go to Detroit Michigan to the first [Indiscernible] workshop to workplace conference. It was an opportunity that we utilize to take two of our most tenured employee 22 and 23 years respectively that all had ever known is workshop setting and have them go to a training conference where they were able to hear from subject matter experts and others in the field about what was coming and some of the techniques and how to apply this. Another aspect that we have utilized is strictly this year history of our agency. Our history -- our agency has been around for hundred 47 years. We started providing community employment services back in the late 80s, this is something that are community has known for quite some time. For us coming in 2012 under the umbrella of St. John's we kind of had a blueprint already in place in regards to how her staff should be able to provide training that would be acceptable to meet the demands in a fully integrated setting such as employment community participation but we have taken advantage of every opportunity we possibly can whether it be national level or internally and we are constantly looking at growing and honing the skill sets of our staff to provide the ultimate services for the individuals that we have. Great, thank you, Jeremy, to do want to add anything to that? Thank you Corey. If you recall the slides that they shared about the framework [Indiscernible - low volume] key areas with capacity building and we know it is incredibly important and Dwayne, he talked about different strategies that each of the providers are doing and we think a lot about what sort of initial training and job coaches and job developers have access to our department and we have a system called rely on us and some initial training they can go through and we want to encourage as many folks as possible to take advantage of training places like APSE an acre and obtained that SP accreditation [Indiscernible] such as kind of thinking about what resources not only are available but how we are promoting them to people and the only other point I would make is that we tend to think of myself included we tend to think of training as kind of a very expensive cost prohibitive thing and if I only had 1 million bucks I could go to all these fancy training and true good trainings are often expensive but a lot of resources and strategies [Indiscernible - static] does only cost time and energy and shadowing is successful in reaching across the aisle and reaching out to other provider [Indiscernible - static] and learning from people who are already doing it successfully so I think [Indiscernible] a lot of that grassroots capacity building like I said will only cost you time and energy which is valuable but does not require as much actual money. Great, thank you. >> I have a question from a number of different participants in the webinar. Related to how to engage families in this process and to enlist their support and commitment to the transformation, I think Duane I would like to start with you but Jeremy I would like to hear your thoughts as well. I think it was back to what I said earlier but honest and open to medication. You really don't need to come in when you address [Indiscernible - low volume] you need to come in and sit down at the table and eat talk about what is going on in the state of Tennessee and on a national level and be able to provide any information and a sortable manner and sort -- try to give families every opportunity to make a sound choice and what services they would like to see their family that my family member have and at the same token the that for the individual and we did that through one-on-one conversations and phone calls and emails and we try to reach out to our families and offer [Indiscernible] and we encourage our families to come and tour the program itself and to see what their son and daughter would be doing in a day to day capacity. Give it a trial run and test the waters if you will with it and what we were able to see his once families had an understanding of what you are trying to implement for their son or daughter they were okay with that and they understood this was a better service for their son or daughter and you still have family members that were on the fence about things and I remember sitting in an office having a conversation with the family about they knew their daughter of 39 years and this just would not work and there's going to be behaviors and [Indiscernible - background noise] The young lady now is very successful in the community and once you -- what you have to do as a provider is fine with interest that individual and what you can do that educate and benefits that individual and when you do those things and put forth the effort and really crap the services around that individual choice and preference, then you really start to see success come in and if the individual is happy with what they are doing then the family is happy and the family wants the best for their sons and daughters just like we do as a provider agency. We have ongoing communications. With our individuals and family and we plan everything out on a week, multi-basis and we ensure those services are being rendered and exactly what the individual and families are looking for. Great, Jeremy, anything to add? I would just say from this day prospectively know providers like Dwayne, and others are uniquely and powerfully position to be interacting with families and individuals on the sort of topic so anything we can do as a basis were providers and endeavor and there are a lot of different ways to do that and we have [Indiscernible] one of the things we will do is we will always make ourselves available and I will always make myself available to attend a family meeting, Board meeting, any sort of venue where people -- family and community members are gathering and if they want any more information like what I said the less you know the more makeup and if they are needing access to information are needing a sounding board or someone to listen to their fears and aspirations and hopes for the future, we will make ourselves available to support the provider in that way so I think it requires partnership between provider agencies and the state to make sure it does not become us versus them versus them situation but rather we are all on the same team that may not seem to see eye to eye [Indiscernible] the more information you have access to the better and more were able to listen to and understand hopes and fears and be able to bring things collaboratively about the future. Great and thank you. I will turn it one more question here, I think I would like to hear from the folks at Sodexo and from Dwayne, as well. Someone asked they have been successful as a provider agency in developing some employment placement, good employee relationships, but they are having employers ask that the job coach, the staff person that works with the individual in question that they stay on and our present with the employee at all times. How do we address that question and say okay the job coaches there to provide support but they should be transitioning out and ultimately this relationship should be between employee and employer. And that job coach should be able to transition out of that relationship. >> As an employer , you always look for [Indiscernible - background noise] [Indiscernible - low volume] job coach they are the first couple of days but we really look for them to develop independently into their role and they've done that pretty successfully here with job coaches that are at St. John's. They do check in with them couple of times a week but for the most part the individuals are pretty independent. Once they get down to the job and what is expected and what they will do you can sort of step back and let them handle it around that. A lot of cases, sometimes it just takes a couple of extra days of training but in the long run definitely is worth it because they are defendable, they show up all the time, never late. Just look to please because for so many or for someone who has worked for Sodexo over the years I've seen a bunch of growth and they are competent and independent and I think having the job coach always there would be a hindrance to that because they will ask them my doing this or that right quick sometimes the best way to learn is on their own. The one thing we do with our job coaches is weak look to them. That is the primary ticket of what we try to do and we want to provide just the right amount of support for that individual to be successful in his or her job selection and we will always be there to offer support when needed to the individual and or to the business but what we also want to do and what we have been able to do with Sodexo is established those natural supports within the working facility that enables individual instead of turning to a paid support are now able to turn Tory fellow coworker and get that extra assistance they need to be successful and by doing that again that creates further independence for that individual and for the business for that matter. Okay, great. It looks like we have just another couple of minutes I will ask one more question and I think we will be pretty quick. With any of the presenters have a sample strategic plan to share which moves from a sheltered workshop to community employment for all individuals who support it? I know we are already sharing your teacher plan that Jeremy was talking about from the state perspective but I want to ask Dwayne, do you have any resources like that that folks could refer to that we could potentially share ? If I had the blueprint to provider transformation, that would be a gold mine right now. Every provider , whether in a rural area or metropolis area, every provider is going to have growing pains that are going to be different from the other providers in question. The six fundamental and open -- elements addressed during my presentation, something that no matter who you are going into a transformation process, you will have to address those components. You will have to look at things from a budgetary standpoint. A staffing capacity standpoint. The buy in standpoint from the very top of the food chain on down. There are a rough skeleton draft of how to go about provider transformation. But then somebody the keys and say here it is, that is really unique to each and every provider that is out there, to the population of individuals they serve to the geographical location that they work out up. I would be more than happy to assist any provider that has a question or any self advocate or whoever in regards to how to make this work and they could feel free to reach out to me and I will offer any assistance that I can. We have had to learn through trial and error and we're still learning and just because you get everything close down and transform does not mean you stop growing and learning. We still experience going pains along the way, we are fairly new to this and again July 2016 is when we closed the door so we're still learning as we go but we have made the biggest hurdle and have met that guideline of being 100% out in the community and I would be happy to offer any assistance to anybody. Great and thank you very much and I would not be surprised that people take you up on that. I will simply close out my piece by saying might, Jesse Ben, Jeremy and playing take you for much for your -- Dwayne, thank you for your participation and thank you to the audience members will be enjoying this is much as we have and I will end it over to Rebecca to close this out. >> Some of the links of the resources that the presenters talked about, as well as provider transformation, issue brief on the next slide, reference to [Indiscernible - background noise] Technical assistance briefs and there is a live link that you will be able to get them at and we wanted to highlight that we have archived that webinar from last week on the role of interagency coordination and loss were transition and we have an upcoming webinar in April on the able app which is a wonderful new resource, it is a tool to encourage people [Indiscernible - background noise] Work and to gain financial stability so there is a link there so that you can [Indiscernible - background noise] Sign up and register for it, that slide gives you all the ways that you can connect to the LEAD Center and if anybody from Sodexo would like to say anything in the final minutes we have left ? >> No, maybe not. Okay. In that case I just want to thank everyone for participating and [Indiscernible - multiple speakers] Hello, I'm sorry we were having technical difficulties and this is Amy Gonzalez and we want to thank all the panelists and everyone for participating in the webinar today. We appreciate the questions and rich dialogue and we hope presence on the webinar take what they learn and apply it in the fields of thank you to everyone and thank you to be LEAD Center and have a wonderful afternoon. Thank you. >> [event concluded]